October 2017           "A Journal of Biblical Understanding"           Volume 14           

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Were Adam and Eve Immortal?

There is great confusion about Adam and what 'kind of life' he was created with! Some believe that when he was created, he was given 'eternal life'. Is that true? You need to know!

MORTAL OR IMMORTAL?

Was Adam created 'immortal'? hmm... There was a time when I had a struggle with thinking that man might have been created 'immortal' in the beginning... But, now, with God's help, I realize that Adam and Eve were created with a temporary, 'mortal', existence... they were created to live within a certain range of years and as they lived, they would do as all of us do... they would get older and eventually die.

WHAT WAS GOD DOING?

That part about "..eventually die..." is what I call a 'key point' to understanding what was going on in the Garden.. What was God trying to accomplish? Was he just 'playing in the mud'? We CAN know...IF we are willing to BELIEVE what the Bible SAYS, instead of what men say! GENESIS Chapter One shows that all the living things that God Created, were DESIGNED to be what they ARE, and to reproduce after their kind... grass, vegetables, animals... and man..

(Gen 1:11) And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
(Gen 1:12) And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
(Gen 1:21) And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
(Gen 1:24) And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
(Gen 1:25) And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Cat's make baby cats, and dogs make baby dogs.. All these created things, AFTER THEIR KIND... and, MAN(Mankind) was designed and created in the image of GOD! After the God Kind!

Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

God was BEGINNING a Family!! Designing and making MANKIND in HIS IMAGE, and in His Likeness!! That's what God was setting about to accomplish!

MAN'S GREAT POTENTIAL

Designed and Created "in His Image" and with GREAT POTENTIAL!

However, as part of the process, Giving the mortal humans a chance to live and experience 'free moral agency', was crucial to the plan... They had to be taught what was right and what was wrong and given an opportunity to face temptation - hopefully with them choosing the right way over the wrong way. And, IF they failed, then they would simply, and surely die.

In the Garden were many fruitful trees, probably all with fruit that was desirable and pleasant to the eyes... In His efforts to TEACH the Man & Woman what was allowed and what was not allowed, God told them that they could eat of any tree in the Garden... EXCEPT the one in the midst of the Garden,-- the one that God pointed out and said "thou shalt not eat of it!"

Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it:....

Like a good parent would teach their children not to touch a hot stove... Like a good parent should-- God was careful to instruct His children and to warn them not to touch that particular tree! He told them why...

Gen 2:17 ... for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Here, God the great parent, told His children that IF they ate from this particular tree, they would SURELY DIE! --- "eventually die" --"surely die" Two different things!! About this key point: IF they were OBEDIENT to their Parent, then... [and only then], was there a possibility of them AVOIDING the eventual DEATH that they were programmed to experience...

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, ...

When I was struggling with the idea that Adam was made immortal, I had not considered this verse... and, those who were teaching me and trying to lead me into their fold, were either very careful not to discuss this verse and/or to make sure I was set up to ASSUME that what this verse says only applied to Adam AFTER he sinned.. But, it was from the beginning... he was given only a limited life span... why? Well... because 'immortality' is just that: IMMORTALITY! If Adam had been given immortality to start with, HE COULD NOT HAVE EVER DIED! God is the only one who has Immortality... He is the only one who has it to give! That's why God doesn't hand it out to just anyone... that's why all who want it, must go to the source to get it!

1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

Hardly anyone understands! Hardly anyone pays any attention to what this verse actually SAYS!! Most are unwilling to believe that they could have been TRICKED and DECEIVED by the same rotten SNAKE that mother Eve was tricked and deceived by!

"this mortal must put on immortality.."

That's why the serpent's discourse with Eve is so important!

AVOIDING CONFUSION!

Here is what God SAID: God said "you shall SURELY die" In order to avoid confusion, please understand! This is referring to the FIRST DEATH!! Adam and Eve were MORTAL... living their lives within a limited lifespan! They were already dying!! From the moment they opened their eyes... they were just like us... slowly dying... God was explaining that if they ate from the forbidden tree, that their eventual deaths would become a certainty! I wonder if you can grasp that?

God said "you shall SURELY die"... and the serpent told EVE.. just the opposite! "You SHALL NOT SURELY DIE!... " -- One of these two beings was LYING! Which one do you think it could have been?

Adam & Eve were created MORTAL. with a limited life span... EVENTUALLY they would get old and DIE.. Understand! If not somehow PREVENTED, or AVOIDED, they were going to die!

HOPE FOR THE OBEDIENT

However, within God's PLAN, there was a possibility of AVOIDING that eventual end... That 'possibility', that ONLY HOPE... was for them to partake of the fruit from the TREE OF LIFE!

The key word was "IF"! IF they were obedient to God, and IF they were able to reject the serpents temptation ... THEN.... [and only then] .. would God give them to eat from the TREE OF LIFE! That would have changed the whole picture!! Eating from the TREE OF LIFE would have given them IMMORTALITY and then they would NEVER DIE! Their 'eventual death' would never occur! They would SURELY LIVE!!! But, as we all know, they failed! They ate from the wrong tree and their 'eventual death' BECAME A CERTAINTY! They had been disobedient! They had become SINNERS! So, to prevent them from becoming 'eternal sinners'.. God moved swiftly to prevent them from getting to that other TREE, the Tree of Life, thus condemning them to suffer that FIRST DEATH ! Their Physical Death was SURE! "Thou shalt surely die" ! By disobeying God, they forfeited their only opportunity to gain what they did not already have!! They forfeited their chance to eat from the Tree of Life, and live forever!

The serpent contradicted God's Clear Warning, and Mother Eve bought his lie, as they say, "hook, line, and sinker".. And, they SURELY DIED!

That wily serpent, LIED!!! He has lied about everything!! He has told multiple millions of lies to multiple millions of people!! Everyone is deceived about something!!!

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:....

Today, those who call themselves "christian", have multiple ideas and multiple doctrines and multiple this and multiple that!!! Everyone has different views and everyone thinks that their views are RIGHT, while everyone else's views are WRONG! WHY??? Everyone can't be right! Why all this confusion?? There has to be a REASON!

CONFUSION- ORIGINAL SIN

This, again, is a product of the original temptation! The serpent not only tempted Eve to eat from that deadly tree -- He also tempted her to think that SHE HAD THE PREROGATIVE TO DECIDE WHETHER TO OBEY GOD OR NOT! That she had the "FREEDOM" to make up her own mind what was right and what was wrong! Just like millions of sincere Christians today have been taught to believe that they "are FREE from the law", and that Christ's death gave them the "Christian FREEDOM" to decide what sin is... It's HUMAN NATURE, and VANITY, to reject the idea that we could possibly be deceived!
Satan has made sure that there is ample confusion about every Bible Truth!

Friends, it is not the "original sin" that has been passed on down from generation to generation, but the "original temptation"!! The very same original LIE! And, along the way, all have fallen for it!! All have sinned, because all have either not known what SIN IS,(they wont accept God's definition).. or because they were taught that THEY could decide for themselves! The whole world has been deceived! Misled... misdirected... misinformed...CONFUSED! (Rev.12:9) All have sinned because they have been convinced of satan's limited definition of good and evil!

Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Our sin is because WE have sinned... not because Adam sinned...

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

All have sinned and come short of the GLORY of GOD! Our sins have cost us that GLORY! The Glory that God intended His children to have!!

Have you ever wondered what that "GLORY" is? That "GLORY" that we have fallen short of???

IMMORTALITY!

When Adam and Eve sinned, they came short of that glory! They came short of being allowed to EAT from the TREE OF LIFE and from receiving the same, unending, UN-REVOCABLE ETERNAL LIFE that God has! GOD is the only one who has Immortality!

That other TREE, the TREE OF LIFE, represented the acquisition of LIFE that cannot be taken back! That is what it means to be IMMORTAL! God alone hath immortality---

1Ti 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: 1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

FAILSAFE

Man was mortal, made from dust! With temporary life that would eventually end! God, the creator, was immortal! Immune from death! But It was God's plan to build a FAMILY! To make man in His image,, and then SHARE that same kind of life, eternal, never ending life, with His children!!! A FAMILY OF BEINGS, JUST LIKE HIM!

In a sense, Adam's sin delayed that plan. But, God was ready!! God had already foreseen the possibility of Adam's failure, and He had prepared 'a way' for mankind to be redeemed... Christ is that way!

Rev 13:8 ...the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Part and parcel of that Great Plan, was the sacrificial death of God, the Son. In the beginning, the Word... was with God, and WAS GOD...(John 1:1) they were two God beings... both equal and both immortal.. But, the PLAN called for one of them to give up His life as a God being, and to BECOME a HUMAN BEING... It called for one of them to become the Father and the other to become the SON! It was the beginning.. the creation of the GOD Family! This plan was extant from the very beginning!!

Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

God created man with the intent of making US, to be like Him! IF obedient, then man would have gained access to the Tree of Life, and the GLORY OF GOD!! But, Adam and Eve failed to OBEY GOD, and became sinners! God had to drive them from the Garden so they could not take from that the Tree of Life and live forever in their sinful state!!
By making man MORTAL, He setup a FAILSAFE to protect His creation from total ruin!

God's intended goal of sharing Eternal Life with mankind was delayed, but not totally derailed!! For a time, man was lost... sold under sin! But, God had prepared 'a way' for man to be redeemed...

That "WAY" called for the WORD to voluntarily give up His eternal life as God, and be born as a human baby... to grow up and live as one of us... TO BE ONE OF US!.. to live a perfect life, and and DIE as a sacrifice to cover the sins that had temporarily delayed the Plan of God. The PLAN was to make it possible to REDEEM man and give him the opportunity to be forgiven of his sins... The PLAN to make Man immortal like His Creator! The PLAN for God to reproduce Himself in man, and to share that GLORY with His very own Children... the children of God!

NOT THERE YETf

We aren't there yet... we can't SEE what we shall be... YET!

1Co 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Someday, when Christ returns, we will see Him, face to face... then we shall KNOW HIM even as He knows us!

1Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

God's Plan.. to redeem us, and make us LIKE HIM!

The serpent hated that plan, and still does!! He hates it because that plan is set to give MANKIND ruler-ship over him! That serpent- satan the devil - wanted to ascend above the clouds and BE LIKE GOD! HE wanted that fruit from the TREE OF LIFE, but is wasn't intended for him!!! So, he set out on a plan of his own! To deceive and destroy as many of God's children as he possibly could along the way and to make God look as bad as he possibly could in the process!! He tells lies constantly and the MAIN LIE is still the ORIGINAL LIE! "thou shalt not surely die"... The serpent has convinced the majority that they have an 'immortal soul' that cannot die!!! The majority believe that there really is no such thing as DEATH... only separation! The LIE and the LIAR are alive and well on planet earth! And, the resulting confusion has everyone deceived about something..(Rev. 12:9)

So, no... Adam did not have the Spirit of God dwelling in him from the beginning... he would have had, ..he could have had, ... IF he had been allowed to eat from that TREE OF LIFE. But, we all know that God PREVENTED Adam and Eve from getting to that TREE!!! Why? Because God only gives His Spirit to them that OBEY HIM.. They had their chance to OBEY and they chose to disobey! God cast them out!!!

IMMORTAL SINNERS

God HAD to cast them out of the Garden and bar the way to that TREE OF LIFE, or Adam and Eve would have gained immortality and would have become 'immortal sinners'!!! The temptation was like the TREE of the knowledge of good and evil... a MIXTURE of truth and LIE!!! Think on what the serpent told Eve: First, the LIE: "Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

Mark that one up as a PURE LIE!! The exact opposite of what God told them!!

Now, the TRUTH [but even here, the truth is mixed with a lie]

Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. "

Many have taken this as a pure lie, but not so!! God confirmed that PART of what satan told Eve was the truth!

"...ye shall be as gods..."

God said, "Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, ..."

Yes, that was true.. but how?

"...to know good and evil.."

The serpent was not only tempting Eve, but he was also putting into her mind, HIS IDEA of what is right and wrong! Injecting, and installing His limited view of what is 'good & evil' ... so, in taking of that forbidden fruit, Eve [and Adam] BECAME as one of the Godhead.. 'to KNOW GOOD AND EVIL'... God does know good and evil - But, there is a difference! His definition of 'good and evil', is different from the limited definition satan espouses...

God's PLAN was, to teach man the TRUE DEFINITION of good and evil and to bring them to the TREE of LIFE and make them immortal! The serpent had a plan as well... he wanted to teach man the limited definition of 'good and evil' and then have them then take of the TREE OF LIFE and live forever... as ADVERSARIES to GOD!! ! God thwarted the serpent's plan when he cast the man and woman out of the Garden!

For now, man is temporarily cut off from God, and has continued to live their lives DECEIVED, and always falling short of the Glory God intended them to have!

Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Gen 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
Gen 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubim, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
"So he drove out the man...". That sounds like the man didn't want to go! It sounds like there may have been some resistance to the idea of not living in the Garden anymore! But, in His MERCY..(to protect them from an eternity of sin).. God put them out and then moved swiftly to BLOCK the way to the tree of Life so the man would not be able to achieve immortality in his sinful state!

How serious was God about blocking the path to that tree???

"...and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubim, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life. " !!

By preventing access to the Tree of Life, God THWARTED the devil's goal of having man to sin, and become God's immortal enemy!

Gen 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

Adam & Eve were driven out.. For the good of all mankind, they were driven out... out into what we might call 'the real world'... outside the Garden, where we all live.... and Adam had to WORK to make a living! He had to till the ground and make his own way... just like us! Out there, outside the Garden... out there, with NO ACCESS to the Tree of Life, Adam and Eve lived out their natural lives... just like us! And, yeah... you guessed it!!... They Surely Died!

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